Colin McPhillips on the PaddleWoo Podcast

Colin McPhillips on the PaddleWoo Podcast


Why am I turning so weak and going so slow” – Colin McPhillips on shortboard surfing

If you are going to have more fun riding the front door off of your house, why not, give it a go” – Colin on close minded surfers

You can’t have too much power or too much strength on a standup.” – Colin

Colin McPhillips Show Notes:

  • 0:55 – Colin’s background in surfing, world titles, and intro to SUP surfing
  • 3:30 – Colin talks about his first SUP board, an 11’6”
  • 5:30 – First good wave at Dog Patch
  • 6:15 – Seeing surfing from the eye’s of a beginner
  • 7:15 – The fun of bettering yourself
  • 8:00 – How is the vibe in the water for SUP surfing in San Clemente
  • 8:30 – Trestles is off limits to SUPs.  Paddles are considered water vechicles
  • 10:40 – The feeling of surfing small waves with a paddle
  • 11:30 – For Colin McPhillips, SUP surfing is a family affair
  • 13:00 – ISA World SUP games, Dave Boehne, Sean Poynter
  • 13:50 – Colin’s thoughts on Mo Freitas and Ian Vaz’s boards
  • 15:50 – SUP surfing contest judging, paddle usage in surfing
  • 17:45 – Erik and Colin talk body size, strength and power in SUP surfing
  • 19:00 – SUP stigma in lineups, close minded surfers, what will it take for surfers to give it a try
  • 21:00 – Luke Egan and Rob Machado hop on SUPs, what top level surfers could do on a SUP if they really gave it a go
  • 22:00 – Erik’s bet to folks who give him a hard time in the water
  • 23:45 – Hobie Raw SUP boards.  Factory Sizes, Custom Orders, Longboard Series
  • 25:40 – What Colin is riding now, a custom 100L longboard SUP (9.0 x 3.75 x 27)
  • 27:20 – Colin won the Longboard division at Carolina Cup
  • 28:00 – New ideas on design, shorter, narrower longboard SUPs
  • 29:30 – Erik and Colin talk about how they met and how Erik got into SUP surfing
  • 30:50 – Erik talks his new board that just arrived, a 7.7 x 26 x 4 at 86L
  • 31:30 – Traction pads vs. wax, water temp, river mouths, rough decks
  • 32:40 – Paddles, cutting them shorter, 2 inches shorter than height, flex for surfing
  • 35:30 – Happy Birthday Colin, How long can you be a pro surfer, future plans, SUP gave Colin another career
  • 37:00 – Folks who just got into SUP for profit, the SUP bandwagon
  • 38:00 – Colin’s thoughts on SUP as a whole, 3 different sports
  • 39:30 – Everyone who gets on a SUP eventually wants to ride waves, it’s the best thing you can do
  • 41:00 – How old is SUP as a sport, how old is Paddle Enhanced Surfing as a sport
  • 43:00 – Thinning out rails on shorter, thicker boards
  • 44:00 – Where the current batch of pro SUP surfers came from, other sports, what will attract more surfers into the sport
  • 46:45 – Strength for SUP surfing vs shortboarding, kettlebells, leverage of the paddle
  • 49:00 – SUP surfing’s early days of choppy surfing, now athletes are starting to surf on the rail
  • 50:00 – When is Colin coming back down to Costa Rica to to run another camp?  June/July
  • 51:00 – Erik talks about being very scared at a local reef during the early May huge swell
  • 52:45 – Colin’s big wave board, the coastal cruiser
  • 53:45 – Colin’s closing thoughts, keep getting out there and having fun
Pat Rawson joins Paddlewoo to discuss SUP design, Mo Freitas and the future of the sport…

Pat Rawson joins Paddlewoo to discuss SUP design, Mo Freitas and the future of the sport…



Pat Rawson (http://www.patrawsonsurfboards.com is an icon in the sport of surfing.  In the 80’s he revolutionized big wave surfing in Hawaii.  He shaped the board that Tom Carroll did the snap heard round the world on at pipe that was commemorated  last year at the Heritage heat at the Pipe Masters.  At one point, three-quarters of the top 16 tour surfers were riding Rawson’s shapes.

Pat has started to use his talents to change the landscape of SUP surfing.  He is doing this through his protege, Mo Freitas, and Focus SUP (  We circled up with Pat to chat about the direction of design for SUP boards, how far the sport can go, Mo Freitas and his impact on SUP surfing and construction materials.

  • In the comments below let us know what you are riding right now and what you think of the board.  Can you go smaller?  What would you like to see board makers focusing on?



This podcast is brought to you by Blue Zone SUP.

Blue Zone SUP offers all-inclusive standup paddle surfing camps in Nosara, Costa Rica.  You can read all about the camp in the latest issue of Standup Paddle Magazine and videos frequently on  Email for camp dates.

Show notes:

  • 1:30 – What PADDLEWOO is all about
  • 4:00 – Pat talks about early Hawaii days, the thruster, Japan up to shaping Mo’s first board
  • 9:15 – Pat shaped his first SUP for Mo Freitas.  Talks design and process of Mo’s boards
  • 10:40 – Advantages of machine shaping for SUP
  • 11:00 – Feedback process with Mo
  • 12:30 – Talks Kai Lenny
  • 14:10 – Mo’s board dimensions – 70 Liters, 23.5 inches wide, Mo weighs 175lbs.
  • 17:30 – Mo Freitas, Focus SUP production board coming this year
  • 18:40 – Commonalities of surfing icons
  • 19:30 – Rockers, rails and fin setup
  • 25:00 – impact on SUP on the lineup.  Mo getting waves at pipe
  • 27:40 – Shorter surfboards in Hawaii, thrusters, redesigning the clark foam blank for shortboards
  • 29:20 – Body Glove plug, Facebook, instagram, doing small production boards for kids
  • 30:10 – SUPs in big surf.  Advantages.
  • 32:20 – Ryan Rawson and Makua Rothman, Billabong Big Wave Award from Jaws.
  • 35:00 – Pattern recognition.
  • 36:40 – Rocket tails on SUPs.  90% of Pat’s SUPs are the rocket tail.  Big surf, round pins
  • 37:50 – Concaves, bottom design, Mo surfs while he is paddling, rail to rail
  • 38:50 – Shaping: Art vs. Science
  • 39:40 – Machine shaping SUPs, Shape 3D
  • 40:20 – Music, people
  • 42:20 – Do surfers know what they want in a board?
  • 43:55 – “You don’t know if it will work until you ride it.”
  • 46:00 – Noses, width, best selling design at Focus
  • 47:00 – What trends does Pat see?  Will SUP head Shorter?
  • 48:40 – Construction, Foam, Glass.  Mo’s boards are under 10Lbs.
  • 53:00 – Legality of SUP, arrests in Cali
  • 53:50 – Attitudes in surfing, SUPs humbling ability
  • 54:50 – Surf Church, spirituality

 “Some guys try to over-egg the omelette.”  – Pat Rawson