Mo Freitas Podcast 2018

Mo Freitas Podcast 2018

If you’re on this site, you know Mo.  He’s the current ISA champ, the APP World Tour overall champ and I think he’s the most polished paddle surfer in the game.

Mo comes back on the show to discuss his last year of competition, the big news about his board sponsor change and we get technical on training and surfing.  We break down some turns and techniques in the second half of the show and discuss creativity near the end.  Enjoy!

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Some links from the show…

We break down the turn at 1:15 in this video…

Trigger Point Foam Rollers  – Mo and Erik both use these rollers every day, no sponsorships here, just love the product.

Lead in photo credit –



Session Breakdown – April 1st

This week was focused on understanding bottom turns.  I was frustrated with the new Rawson (7.9×26) on the bottom of the wave.

Some notes on the board –  At 7.9 it’s a bit bigger than what I’ve been riding.  It has an extreme tail rocker with fins a bit farther forward than my other boards.   The board trims forward of center, so doesn’t carry speed off the tail.

All that said, I know it surfs amazing because I have a ton of Mo footage riding it better than anyone rides any board.  So the problem is with the rider at this point.

I got frustrated on Tuesday, and decided to figure it out.  This is my normal process for learning/refining a skill.

  1.  Go to the source.  In this case Mo.  I broke down Mo videos for an hour or so.  I found the Cali video most helpful (below).  After watching a few times I started to realize how much rail he’s putting in the water.  Also, back foot, which on a thruster is normally right on top of the back inside rail fin, seems to be a touch farther forward.  It made sense to me, with a looser tail, you’d need more rail, but I didn’t realize how much Mo is burying the rail until now.  His bottom turn looks a lot like that of Julian Wilson, very compact and low.
  2. Go drill.  I rode the Rawson for the next 2 sessions and still couldn’t get it.  I had some great moments, off the lip game is strong with the tail rocker and quad, but bottom game was still lacking.
  3. Try other equipment.  At this point I rode 3 different boards for the next 3 sessions.  The small 7.7×24 Hobie, the L41 6.10×26 and the bigger Hobie at 7.6×26.5.  Bottom turns felt better and focusing on the bottom turn with the three different boards really allowed me to dial in the feel and foot placement.  But, I still didn’t have the a-ha moment.
  4. Back to the video…  This time I took the last few days of me surfing and broke it down with the below video.  That’s when I saw it.  Directly preceding Mo’s bottom turn he’ll do a stroke into the flats.  I always thought it was stylish, but never gave it much thought outside of speed.  But, it has massive implications for the bottom turn.
  5. Boards turn on rail better when the wave face has the greatest opposed angle.  So, bottom turns are easier in the flats and cutbacks are easier when the wave is bending at you.  Have you ever tried to lay down a huge carve on a wave bending away?  It’s almost impossible.  So, that extra stroke isn’t as much about speed as it is about clearing distance into the flats which allows more rail penetration and a tighter bottom turn.  Which, if your riding a loose quad, is needed to maintain speed to the lip.
  6. The video above on instagram is after 2 days of practicing the paddle into the flats.  Bottom turns are grabbing and redirecting like I’ve never felt before.

Mo Freitas

Mo Freitas

Hey there paddlewoo fans.  This is Erik, your host of the PaddleWoo Podcast.  I don’t think I have been as fired up for a show as I am about today’s guest.
One of the reasons I wanted to start this podcast was to have the opportunity to talk to athletes that are changing the way that future generations will see waves through our sport and I believe that when we look back Mo Freitas will be at the top of that list of Athletes.  Pat Rawson, the legendary shaper who was on our first episode, compared Mo to Tom Curren and used the word Icon when describing him.
If you watch his videos, which he produces and edits himself, you understand what I’m talking about.  From gracefully shredding small right point breaks to surfing pipe, Mo surfs incredible.  And that is what this podcast and our idea here is all about.  Surfing.  It’s surfing first, I just believe that Paddle Surfing 80% of the time is the best way to enter the lineup.  The paddle shouldn’t take away from surfing, it should enhance it.  Mo is one of the guys showing the rest of us what is going to be the norm in 5 or ten years.  He is a window in the future, and today on the podcast we get to know where he came from and where he sees the sport going.
And after talking to Mo extensively doing the show, I can tell you that the sport is in good hands.
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Show Notes:
  • 0:33 – Erik’s “Glenn Beck” intro 🙂  (not sure where that came from…)
  • 2:00 – PaddleWoo launches the “Not Afraid to Stand Alone” PaddleWoo Shirt.  Get yours at
  • 2:50 – Mo Freitas gives us a short history of his surfing career, started contests at 7 years old
  • 4:10 – Mo paddled for a canoe team and would paddle on a longboard on the river with his canoe paddle, well before he knew about the sport
  • 5:24 – Mo just won the Payette River Games in Idaho, overall winner with a total prize purse of $50,00
  • 5:55 – Surfers did very well in the event, Mo explains it if because the time in the water in unstable water
  • 7:15 – Mo explains how he got into competition SUP surfing
  • 9:20 – He fell in love with the sport of SUP surfing right away
  • 10:20 – At his first event we was sponsored by Imagine, his first sponsor, Imagine introduce him to Body Glove
  • 11:25 – Imagine and Body Glove split and Mo stayed with Body Glove who then started to work with Focus SUP, that’s how Mo got hooked up with Pat Rawson, Tony Freitas, Mo’s dad, really helped push the board size down.
  • 13:50 – Can volume go any smaller?  How much more room for progression is there?  Board size, Mo is at the limit.  He tried 6.10 x 23, to small.  SUP is at its baby steps of progression according to Mo.
  • 16:30 – How will boards progress?  Mo talks about Dave Boehne’s designs.  Mo says for him basically just blow up your favorite shortboard for conditions and it should work?
  • 18:34 – Mo talks surfing big waves on SUPs.  He thinks it is an advantage, both paddling in and surfing.  He thinks SUP in big waves will grow.
  • 21:18 – What wave does Mo surf the most?  Haleiwa, HI, he talks about the his wipeout when he broke his pelvis
  • 23:30 – Mo talks about editing/producing his own videos, it is a passion of his
  • 24:45 – Mo films majority of his out of water footage, using GH4 Lumix to shoot, and uses Premier Pro from Adobe to edit.
  • 27:00 – Mo’s boards – 7.2 and 7.4 by 23, for choppy surf he uses a 6.10, bigger tail, same volume
  • 28:50 – Mo uses Sawyer paddles, uses 90in blade for surfing and 95in blade for race?  Likes a lot of flex in his paddles (better for your shoulders)
  • 30:10 – Define yourself as an athlete.  He defines himself as an all-around athlete, but mentions surfing first.  Loves the versatility of racing and SUP in general.
  • 31:10 – How does Mo Freitas train for racing?  He trains with Roberto Lopez and Noa Ginella, Mo doesn’t have an offseason.
  • 32:20 – Mo has been doing a lot of swimming lately for rehab on his pelvis
  • 33:30 – How is the vibe for SUP surfers on the North Shore?  Vibe at Pipe is different, won’t get any waves, Mo will be in the waves for 3 hours and will only get 3 waves.  Pipe is easier to surf when it gets bigger
  • 36:45 – Who inspires Mo Freitas?  A lot of the guys that Mo wants to beat, Kai Lenny in particular.  Friends and family.
  • 37:44 – What are Mo’s favorite places and waves?  He just graduated high school and is now traveling the world.  He loves a lot of places but Hawaii is home.
  • 39:20 – Closing thoughts, a message of positivity from Mo Freitas.
Pat Rawson joins Paddlewoo to discuss SUP design, Mo Freitas and the future of the sport…

Pat Rawson joins Paddlewoo to discuss SUP design, Mo Freitas and the future of the sport…



Pat Rawson (http://www.patrawsonsurfboards.com is an icon in the sport of surfing.  In the 80’s he revolutionized big wave surfing in Hawaii.  He shaped the board that Tom Carroll did the snap heard round the world on at pipe that was commemorated  last year at the Heritage heat at the Pipe Masters.  At one point, three-quarters of the top 16 tour surfers were riding Rawson’s shapes.

Pat has started to use his talents to change the landscape of SUP surfing.  He is doing this through his protege, Mo Freitas, and Focus SUP (  We circled up with Pat to chat about the direction of design for SUP boards, how far the sport can go, Mo Freitas and his impact on SUP surfing and construction materials.

  • In the comments below let us know what you are riding right now and what you think of the board.  Can you go smaller?  What would you like to see board makers focusing on?



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Show notes:

  • 1:30 – What PADDLEWOO is all about
  • 4:00 – Pat talks about early Hawaii days, the thruster, Japan up to shaping Mo’s first board
  • 9:15 – Pat shaped his first SUP for Mo Freitas.  Talks design and process of Mo’s boards
  • 10:40 – Advantages of machine shaping for SUP
  • 11:00 – Feedback process with Mo
  • 12:30 – Talks Kai Lenny
  • 14:10 – Mo’s board dimensions – 70 Liters, 23.5 inches wide, Mo weighs 175lbs.
  • 17:30 – Mo Freitas, Focus SUP production board coming this year
  • 18:40 – Commonalities of surfing icons
  • 19:30 – Rockers, rails and fin setup
  • 25:00 – impact on SUP on the lineup.  Mo getting waves at pipe
  • 27:40 – Shorter surfboards in Hawaii, thrusters, redesigning the clark foam blank for shortboards
  • 29:20 – Body Glove plug, Facebook, instagram, doing small production boards for kids
  • 30:10 – SUPs in big surf.  Advantages.
  • 32:20 – Ryan Rawson and Makua Rothman, Billabong Big Wave Award from Jaws.
  • 35:00 – Pattern recognition.
  • 36:40 – Rocket tails on SUPs.  90% of Pat’s SUPs are the rocket tail.  Big surf, round pins
  • 37:50 – Concaves, bottom design, Mo surfs while he is paddling, rail to rail
  • 38:50 – Shaping: Art vs. Science
  • 39:40 – Machine shaping SUPs, Shape 3D
  • 40:20 – Music, people
  • 42:20 – Do surfers know what they want in a board?
  • 43:55 – “You don’t know if it will work until you ride it.”
  • 46:00 – Noses, width, best selling design at Focus
  • 47:00 – What trends does Pat see?  Will SUP head Shorter?
  • 48:40 – Construction, Foam, Glass.  Mo’s boards are under 10Lbs.
  • 53:00 – Legality of SUP, arrests in Cali
  • 53:50 – Attitudes in surfing, SUPs humbling ability
  • 54:50 – Surf Church, spirituality

 “Some guys try to over-egg the omelette.”  – Pat Rawson